Army discusses Hobi’s “Thanks To” section of the JitB HOPE Edition album
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What angers me the most is that the whole conversation centered around “physicals” rather than the incredible body of work JITB is and every time another member released their work, Hobi would get dragged again.
Like, JITB is such an incredible album that marked the official start of Chapter 2, all songs have variety in production and topics, from Hobi’s thoughts about whether he should go for more or risk burning himself, his search for a safety zone, his thoughts about how everyone is equal and his optimism for the future.
I really hope this conversation finally puts the whole discourse to an end and remember that the most important thing is music and if the artist is happy if their vision came to fruition.
The guys know what they are doing, let’s just trust them.
Future (Lollapalooza version) is an incredible song, please check it out.
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I hope people realize that you only hurt the members when you start acting like you somehow know better than them. They asked us repeatedly to trust them. Time to actually start listening to their words.
Thanks for posting this!!
It made me angry everytime someone would complain that there wasn’t a physical release of JiTB. I mean, Hobi CHOSE to release it this way so there shouldn’t have been any arguements over it.
I kinda feel like he was “bullied” by those people into releasing a physical version and reading his “Thank You’ just makes me infurated that he was second guessing himself because he wasn’t doing things the way he wanted.
To me, it was okay for people who love to collect CDs to be minority bummed when it was first announced as digital-only. But the discussion should have stopped there. Akgaes, solos and victimizers dragging jhope into arguments every time another member released something on cd was absolutely absurd behavior.
Also, do these people stan the music or a Photobook? I’m an avid collector and even I had accepted he was just doing things a different way.
My goodness this was so tough to read. We are literally suffocating their artistic choices because of what we want / what we expect.
In these times, I always think about Halsey’s interview on the hot ones where they talk about at what point does an artist become beholden to their super fan base. Truly a double edge sword. I want Hoseok to feel empowered to try and do whatever he wants, but it seems unrealistic at the same time.
Edit: just to clarify… I’m not really a merch person so Hobi’s original decision never bothered me at all. The very vocal and extreme minority (solos and mantis) suck and will always suck. However, I am pondering if even a little bit of disappointment in aggregate from millions of fans becomes unintentional pressure for artists. It’s tough.
To all of those who made Hobi feel remorseful when he should have only felt triumphant and loved 💜
Ahhhh Hobi 💜
How ironic that those who claimed mistreated etc to the company actually caused the mistreatment themselves.
A perfect illustration of why I hate solo and manti rhetoric. They were calling anyone who questioned their BS “company stans”, but it wasn’t the company’s decision they were criticizing and insulting. It was Hobi’s decision all along. It was him they were flinging insults at. They never really cared about him either – they weren’t actually trying to defend him from anything. It was all just a selfish tantrum because they didn’t get the exact type of album they wanted.
Hobi’s not the only one either. A bunch of Tae solos are whining about his album’s rollout now, as if he has no say in the process. And I’m still seeing people complain about FACE promo being “cut short” and yelling about “sabotage” from the company, when odds are it was Jimin himself who decided which shows he’d go on and that determined how long the promo period would be. It just pisses me off – I wish all the know-nothing critics would quit making up victim narratives and drink a big fat cup of STFU instead.
After reading that translation, I just want to say, “HOW DARE YOU?” to all of those people who reacted in such an inappropriate and willfully ignorant manner. JITB is a marvelous album and should be celebrated for its music and Hobi’s vision, talent, and efforts, not how it looks in a stack of albums in your bedroom. God, he’s even doing a Hope on the Street dance project for us because he thought people would be upset about a lack of dancing in JITB.
Slight disappointment or even disagreement is whatever. Feel how you feel. But to publicly trend such harmful opinions and repeatedly call out literally everyone at HYBE/BHM as victims and villains for A YEAR just because a member’s decisions about his own body of work didn’t meet your expectations is beyond concerning. This has been happening to all of the members to a certain degree and, while I don’t sit and read most of what is said, I know it’s happening. Truly shameful.
Hobi said time and time again that it was his decision not have physicals and the fact that BH was
Preparing to have them (according to his letter here) doesn’t surprise me. The fact that he didn’t have them should have told people it must have been his decision without him having to say it tbh, since it is an avenue for revenue. And I do understand it from his POV as well – they were still feeling out how these
First official solo albums would look different than mixtapes, and those had never had physical albums. It
Reminds me of when Jin mentioned that he almost didn’t include photo cards because he didn’t understand how important they were to people. I’m happy to have a physical album but I’m sad that this is the way it came about and so many people can’t remember the first rule of being Army: Trust BTS
Hobi 🥺 He is the sweetest, but let’s be real: those people who whined and wheezed about JitB are not going to feel any sort of shame or guilt. Akgaes, antis, solo stans – there is absolutely no reasoning with them. A member could straight up bluntly say what they want and what their intentions are and they will just cover their eyes, ears, and brain. 🙄
I’m a 90s kid and I was bummed to know that there wasn’t a physical album as I do love the physical album similar to me having an actual book in my hands rather than a tablet. But did I complain to the point of making the one person whose heart n soul went into music remorseful. Absolute not!! I enjoyed streaming it on weverse, Spotify and YouTube. We need to respect an artist decision because it’s their art. Their vision. Not ours. we are supposed be the vessel though which they can express themselves without judgement. We are ARMY they trust us enough with their visions. Why can’t we trust them. 💜
I unfortunately think solos will not learn from this. They’ll see this as an example that their methods worked and they’ll continue to harass Hybe and BigHit until they get their wishes (one of the members terminates their contract and the group disbands).
I don’t normally purposely start arguments in the Internet over opposing opinions, but one time, I told a notorious physical album advocate who was at it again on a post about another member’s release that they sound like a child throwing a tantrum. I was THAT fed up.
And now, they are acting like they weren’t part of the problem when they were sorts confronted about it. 🤷♂️
And the audacity to lowkey victimize their appreciation post just because it was having less engagement??
I hate that they’re making me petty over a rando in the Internet, haha! But there, I’ve let the steam out and I will move on.
Oh Hobi!😢
I’m frustrated that he saw all that discourse. If it was limited to his promotion period, maybe he wouldn’t feel as bad. But it spilled over to every member’s rollout, how could he not feel the way he was feeling!
Let this be the end of the discussion but I wouldn’t be surprised if some fans continue to find ways to diminish the members’ agency. And like some users mentioned, this may embolden them to complain more because for them it worked. Regardless if what they’re doing hurts the members.
It’s a long weekend where I live. So I will be celebrating this masterpiece of an album by streaming and watching his Lolla stage for the nth time.
the fact that for hobi, JITB – which should have been a happy, glorious celebration of hobi’s artistry & his official debut as a solo artist – will now always be marred by feelings of regret and guilt all because he didn’t put out a physical kills me. bless him for being so brave & honest here but my god i just want to wrap him up in a hug and take his phone away so he never sees any of that discourse again.
it’s been abundantly clear that each member is doing promo for their solo works their own way, so i will never understand people who pit each member’s promos against each other and come out with narratives that fit their own agenda. the members have been in this industry for a whole DECADE now, and yes there might be some areas where they’re individually finding what works for them and what doesn’t, but they aren’t nugus that aren’t aware how the industry at large works.